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'The Second Chance' Giveaway and Thoughts on JAFF Canon

10/5/2014

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PictureP&P 1995, BBC
Over the years, many of us have read so much Jane Austen fan-fiction that the common JAFF norms have become as unquestionable as Jane Austen’s own universally acknowledged truths. 

We no longer wonder why Col. Fitzwilliam’s first name is almost always Richard, nor who came up with the idea in the first place. He is Richard to most of us, and that’s the end of it! Also, no matter how quasi-likeable the 2005 P&P adaptation made Mr Collins, we all love to hate him as a slimy nincompoop - and as for Mr. Wickham, the least said of the man, the better! 

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P&P 1995, BBC
Likewise, we love to lampoon Mrs. Bennet as a horrible monster of a mother, eager to sell her daughters to the highest bidder, with no regard for their own thoughts and feelings.

For my part, I must admit, I feel rather sorry for Mrs. Bennet! Maybe I have softened towards her because I’m moving too fast for comfort towards the lady’s age, but honestly, the poor woman! Not only did she have to put up with idiosyncrasies of an eccentric husband, but she was forced to bear the consequences of his indolent, improvident nature – and see him mocking her in the presence of her own children! Badly done, Mr. Bennet, badly done indeed!

By modern standards, it’s ever so easy to condemn the woman for pushing her daughters towards marriages of convenience, or at least to marry with an eye to the purse. But what were they to do, if the worst came to pass? Unlike Fanny Price, or the Miss Dashwoods, or Jane Austen herself, the Bennet girls had no wealthy relative who might come to their aid if the income suddenly dried up! Not to mention the bitter taste of the cold and reluctant charity all of the above received from their wealthy male relations!

Maybe the reason why we can’t quite forgive her is that she never had the wits to see that, rather than pestering Elizabeth to marry Mr. Collins, she should have tactfully steered him towards Mary instead! Hm! Mrs. Bennet, tactful? Chance would be a fine thing!

Having said that, so many plots hinge of Mrs. Bennet’s tactlessness – and Lydia’s as well! Of all the friends and family, those two are the most likely to let cats out of bags, speak out of turn and thus advance the plot in ways their decorous relations would have never dreamt of doing! Perhaps, just like Wickham or Mr. Collins, Lydia and Mrs. Bennet are as vital to the plot as they are annoying, and as tightly woven into the treasured fabric of fan-fiction as Mr. Darcy and his soaking-wet shirt!

So, while on the subject of fan-fiction, what do you like reading about? A brooding Mr. Darcy bearing the consequences of his own actions of course, but what else? And at the other end of the scale, what vexes you greatly, and you would really much prefer not reading about? Pop by and leave a comment about your likes and dislikes for a chance to win an e-copy of ‘The Second Chance’, available internationally. 

Two copies are offered for this giveaway, and it closes at midnight (BST) on Friday 16 May. Looking forward to hearing from you!

I will leave you now with a short excerpt from ‘The Second Chance’, where we almost wish there was someone to tell Mrs. Bennet that
‘Open mouths, my dear lady, should at all times be very firmly closed!’
                                              ~ ** ~

“Would you care for some coffee, Mr. Collins?” Mary timely interjected, leaving Elizabeth to wonder how much of her sister’s apparent contentment with the married state derived from real comforts, and how much from constant and attentive management.

“Thank you, my dear, that would be very good. As I was saying, when I had the honour to inform Lady Catherine de Bourgh of my impending nuptials, the great lady could easily ascertain, merely from my descriptions, without even having met my future wife that, to my great advantage, I was able to follow her instructions to the letter. ‘Choose properly,’ her ladyship had urged me, ‘choose a gentlewoman for my sake; and for your own, let her be an active, useful sort of person, not brought up too high, but able to make a small income go a long way.’  Not that our income is small nowadays, but nevertheless… ‘Find such a woman as soon as you can,’ she advised me, ‘bring her to Hunsford and I will visit her.’ And you can rest assured that her ladyship was true to her word, not that a person of her moral standing could be otherwise! Is it not so, my dear? We were greatly honoured by her ladyship’s attentions during the short time you spent in Kent. Of course, we had to relinquish the superior society of Rosings when a certain sad event occurred, of which I shall speak no further. Lady Catherine could not possibly condescend to call upon us here!”

Darcy sipped from the cup of coffee that Kitty had just poured him nearly scalding himself in the process, as he wondered what – if anything! – governed the man’s tongue. Within mere moments he had contrived to put together a speech guaranteed to distress, mortify or offend virtually every person there! Elizabeth’s countenance spoke volumes of the depth of her vexation, and without further ado Darcy put down his cup and walked over to her side.

“Miss Bennet, can I persuade you to take a turn about the room with me?” he said, thankful for the small mercy of no longer having to withhold his attentions.

She nodded, but before she could make her excuses and leave her seat, Mrs. Bennet spoke up.

Truth be told, she never really got to like the vexing, verbose man, nor could she reconcile herself with having to quit her home in his favour – not even when the threat of the entail was removed by Mary’s engagement, followed by the bequest of Farringdon. And now his careless references to Mr. Bennet’s passing and his pining for the superior society in Kent could do nothing but antagonise her further. Her only consolation came from Mr. Darcy, all solicitous attention for her dear Lizzy. What a clever, clever girl to have made such a match! Even dear Bingley was nothing in comparison, nothing at all!

“Perhaps you should have remained at Hunsford then, Mr. Collins!” she said tartly. “No doubt others could have managed Longbourn in your stead. As to the society in Hertfordshire, I daresay not even the great lady herself would find cause to object, when she comes to attend her nephew’s nuptials in Longbourn church!”

“Good Lord!” Darcy muttered, as he briefly met Elizabeth’s eyes.

Very few reacted, as knowledge of his family connections was not at all widespread. It was only Bingley, his wife and Elizabeth that looked up in astonishment at Mrs. Bennet’s smug pronouncement. As for Mr. Collins, the snub had gone completely unnoticed. It was just the remark about her ladyship that managed to sink in.

“Lady Catherine’s nephew marrying in Longbourn church? Which nephew is that?”

“Why, Mr. Darcy, of course! How many nephews does her ladyship have?”

‘Five, actually. Three on the Fitzwilliam side’, Darcy privately supplied, quite at a loss how best to end the matter without causing Elizabeth further distress. He noticed Collins turning away from Mrs. Bennet to cast him a look of stupefaction, and for a moment Darcy hoped that the man would not have the gall to question him outright.

He was wrong.

“But Mr. Darcy, why would you marry in Hertfordshire?”

“The details have not been fixed yet, Sir,” Darcy replied evenly, not wishing to be drawn into it.

“I would urge you to try the walnut cake,” Mrs. Bingley tactfully intervened. “Shall I cut you a piece, Ma’am? Mr. Collins?”

But her mother’s effusions were not to be stopped with walnut cake.

“Because, Mr. Collins, in his condescension and I daresay his great affection for his bride, Mr. Darcy thinks that Lizzy might wish to be married in the church where she has attended service ever since she was a little girl!” Mrs. Bennet triumphantly announced.

Darcy’s jaw tightened. How was it possible that a man of his understanding could fail to learn a valuable lesson: under no circumstance talk to Mrs. Bennet of anything but the weather! Still, he could at least note that the look of vexation and distress on Elizabeth’s countenance had temporarily softened into something akin to tenderness, before she remembered to blush for yet another of her mother’s improprieties.

Across from him, Mr. Collins gaped.

“Lizzy? My cousin… er… Lizzy? Mr. Darcy is to marry Lizzy?”

“Yes, Mr. Collins, I am to marry Miss Elizabeth Bennet,” Darcy replied in a tone dangerously reminiscent of the last time they had spoken, almost a year ago, at Longbourn. “Do not make yourself uneasy about not having wished us joy,” he added dryly. “You could not have known. It has not been formally announced yet.”

“Indeed,” Bingley interjected, belatedly coming to his friend’s aid. “The plan was to announce it at the ball.”

“My dear Mr. Bingley, how very, very thoughtful! The ball was meant to be in honour of their engagement! Oh, dear! I fear I have spoken out of turn, then!” Mrs. Bennet remarked, rather flustered, and many were those who valiantly resisted the temptation to roll their eyes.

‘Oh, Madam, surely not!’

Marianne, who caught a little of the discussion from where she sat in conversation with her sister, their future husbands, Kitty and Georgiana, wondered whether now might be a good time to come and offer her formal congratulations – but she thought better of it and turned her attention back to her companions, pretending she heard nothing, as soon as Mr. Collins’s stutter reached her ears:

“But… But… what of the fair Miss de Bourgh?”

“What of the fair Miss de Bourgh, Mr. Collins?” Mrs. Bennet inquired in some irritation, and before anyone could intervene, the unstoppable cleric made public his concern:

“Miss Anne de Bourgh, Lady Catherine’s daughter, has been for many years expected to marry Mr. Darcy! Cousin Elizabeth,” he urged, turning to her, his countenance a picture of  solemn horror, “I beg you and your noble admirer to consider and not run hastily into a marriage which defies family obligations and can never be properly sanctioned! There is no doubt that her ladyship would be most seriously displeased!”

At least five people in the room gave the distinct impression that they might consider extreme measures to silence the man, but it was Darcy who spoke first, without any further attempt to disguise his vexation.

“Mr. Collins! Your diligence on my family’s behalf is quite extraordinary but I would thank you, Sir, to desist from addressing matters which are none of your concern!” Then, with his voice and manner instantly softened, he turned to Elizabeth again. “May I have the pleasure of your company, Miss Bennet?” he asked and, as she rose, he perfunctorily presented their excuses and led her through the open door onto the terrace.

Uncomfortable silence followed in their wake, until Bingley suddenly cried:

“Do let us have a little music! Kitty! Miss Marianne! Mrs. Collins! Can we persuade you?”

Judging by the superior execution, Elizabeth gathered it must have been Marianne who had swiftly acceded to the request. With a long sigh, she came to rest her palms on the cool top of the stone banister. She was almost afraid to raise her eyes to the man standing beside her – half wondering how it was possible that he should still be at her side – but nevertheless did so, only to find him observing her with undisguised concern. A muffled sound escaped her – half laughter, half sob – and she voiced the thought that gave her pain.

“I fail to see why you would still wish to marry me…”

His first response was to exhale – a violent, impatient sound.

“Elizabeth, no more, I beg you! You are my life, and we shall marry, because we would not wish it otherwise!”

Her soft little laugh was genuine this time as she briefly leaned her head against his shoulder.

“In that case,” she whispered, her warm breath tickling his ear, “perhaps we should consider Gretna Green!”

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Other excerpts are available here:

http://www.joanastarnes.co.uk/1/post/2014/03/coming-soon-the-second-chance-a-pride-prejudice-sense-sensibility-variation.html

http://www.joanastarnes.co.uk/1/post/2014/03/the-cover-story-or-the-before-and-after.html

http://www.moreagreeablyengaged.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/joana-starnes-and-second-chance.html

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If you would like to enter the giveaway for your very own copy of 'The Second Chance', please leave a comment about what you would like to find in fan-fiction and what you would much rather not! 


I’m looking forward to your opinions! Thanks for visiting!

31 Comments
Deborah
9/5/2014 07:40:30 pm

I'm looking forward to reading this book within the next few weeks. The ebook is purchased and is on my TBR list.

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Joana Starnes
10/5/2014 05:12:02 am

Hi, Deborah
You're so kind to pop by to tell me this!
Thanks, and I hope you'll enjoy it!

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Deborah
10/5/2014 10:31:58 am

Started it yesterday.

Deborah
16/5/2014 05:05:36 am

To finally answer your question...a variation is just that, so I do not expect it to follow the original. The story line can vary greatly. The only things I would not like is D & E not ending up together with an HEA in the end, or D & E being evil, unfaithful, cruel, hateful, indifferent, or abusive (essentially completely out of character).

Monica link
9/5/2014 07:47:48 pm

For me personally, my range of "acceptability" in JAFF is pretty darn wide. The only thing that I can think of which would make a story unreadable is if either D or E were unfaithful after they were married/a clearly established couple, or if they were forever cruel/abusive/indifferent to one another with basically no HEA. Thankfully, I've not run across any of the former circumstance and only a couple of the latter.

One of my pet peeves is when someone says a character would *never* do/say a particular thing, especially in a what-if scenario. Under circumstances made purposely different by the author, how can one know how a person would or would not react? We have some canon guidelines, of course, but "in-character-ness" is subjective. It would have to be something fairly extreme for me to say a thing would *never* happen.

(Since almost all the JAFF I read is P&P fanfic, I'm centering my thoughts mostly around D&E, though I'd say it applies to the others as well).

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Monica
9/5/2014 07:59:17 pm

I don't know if I really answered the question correctly...lol.

In short, I'm fairly easy to please plot-wise, as long as the story draws me in and engages my emotions or sense of humor. The type of story I read really just depends on whatever mood I'm in at the moment! :)

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Joana Starnes
10/5/2014 05:18:14 am

LOL Monica - there's no correct or incorrect answer, just me testing the waters :)
Having finished three major projects that were on my mind for some time, I'm now pondering which direction I should consider next - and while it's good to be true to oneself, I think it's always good to listen to the opinions of your friends and peers.
Thanks very much for sharing yours, and especially thanks for being so easy to please!
Good luck in the giveaway and thanks for popping by!

Monica Fairview link
11/5/2014 03:53:39 am

I agree with (the other) Monica completely. When the book is a variation, that implies that the writer is changing things. So the characters may behave differently under different circumstances.
Having said that, I really wouldn't like to read a novel in which Darcy and Elizabeth are evil or unpleasant people because, in that case, why write about them in particular?
Joana -- enjoyed your playful approach in the extract. I love JA variations that reverse expectations!

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Joana Starnes
11/5/2014 07:32:45 am

Great to have you here, Monica Fairview, and thanks for your sharing your thoughts!

I wholeheartedly agree, it makes sense for characters to change and/or behave differently in a variation, as long as they don't became as wholly unrecognisable as that!

I'm so glad you enjoyed the excerpt - hope you liked it as much as I enjoyed snippets from Mr Dracy's Pledge! Best of luck with your new release, and thanks for visiting!

Deborah
9/5/2014 07:54:46 pm

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Joana Starnes
10/5/2014 05:19:33 am

Thanks, Deborah!
Much appreciated!

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Helena
9/5/2014 10:51:52 pm

Hi Joana,

I am so excited to finally read this revised version of Steady to his Purpose, an all time favorite of mine. It's fantastic to see you publishing so frequently and I am hoping you have one more brilliant story already in progress.

I love how you keep Austen's characters in character, and especially that her young adults behave as adults and not spoiled, foolish, impulsive teenagers (except Lydia, of course). I especially dislike when characters become fan fiction caricatures.

Best of luck with this new book. I have your others and will certainly buy the new one if I don't win it! I'm eager to see what you've changed.

- Helena

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Joana Starnes
10/5/2014 05:38:02 am

Hi, Helena
Great to hear from you! So glad 'Steady..' was an old favourite of yours, and I hope you'll like the final version. I think it's much improved from what it used to be, with scenes added or expanded or just smoothed out and clarified. Not to mention that 'Steady...' was written at a time when I used to take pride in including lots of original Jana Austen text, as seamlessly as possible. Thankfully, I've outgrown that now, as after a long stretch of finding the same paragraphs in dozens of variations, it might get a bit boring :) But I still enjoyed stirring things up a bit and putting a well-known line in the mouth of a different character :)
Goof luck in the giveaway and thanks for getting in touch!

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Ceri
10/5/2014 12:15:57 am

There is nothing I especially like to have except for lots of romance and a happy ever after with Elizabeth and Darcy together of course but there are a few things I don't like. Firstly, I don't like angst that goes on for a long time or for them to marry other people. I also don't like it when less popular characters are portrayed as evil or horrible, unless it's required for the plot. I also feel that Mrs Bennet gets the short end of the stick in this respect. Although Lizzy is her least favourite child I feel that Mrs Bennet genuinely loves and wants the best for all her children. I know marrying Mr Collins would have been awful for Lizzy, but I don't think Mrs Bennet thought this. To be mistress of a comfortable estate and good income and secure the future safety of her mother and sisters could have been achieved in one fell swoop. I don't think Mrs Bennet understood Lizzy well enough to realise that Collins would have made her miserable. The other thing I don't like in variations is pre-marital sex - I don't mind sex scenes per se, although I don't think you need them, but I think it would have been such a selfish risk to take that I don't think Lizzy would have done it. What Monica says is true, anything seemingly out of character in a variation could be part of the variation, but if part of the variation is that Elizabeth is selfish enough to behave like Lydia and risk her four sisters' future then I don't want to have her as heroine of the story!

Although I'd love an e-copy if the story because I am greedy, I already have the paperback, so please don't enter me for the giveaway :)

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Joana Starnes
10/5/2014 06:07:38 am

Hi, Ceri! Oh, a woman after my own heart ;) I'm with you here, and I think Mrs Bennet's major fault is a weak understanding rather than evil tendencies.

I think she simply attributes her own standards and wishes to other people. She would have found great merit in an offer from Mr Collins, so she assumes anybody else would. She would have flirted with as many officers as possible, so she sees no problem with Lydia doing the same.

Of course, things would have been different if she was able to reflect on consequences, but neither she nor Lydia are prone to reflection :)

Thanks so much for visiting and sharing your thoughts, it was great to see you here!

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Susan
10/5/2014 12:55:03 am

I can enjoy anything in the JAFF universe
except the hero-heroine lovers not to find
happiness together eventually!

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Joana Starnes
10/5/2014 06:08:38 am

So true, Susan!
It would simply be heart-breaking!

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Oloore
10/5/2014 02:21:34 am

I think that despite the era all moms having daughters dream to have them married:) And sometimes desperate mothers will refuse to see indelicacy of their actions.
In P&P variations/fanfictions I like it when Darcy and Lizzy have more time for slow courtship, for undisturbed moments when they can share their thoughts, when they have more possibilities for communicating (or even arguing) with each other without interference of other characters. Because of this I particularly like skillful stories of arranged marriage (engagement) between Darcy and Lizzy, when she gradually grows to understand and appreciate her husband, as well as stories when due to harsh circumstances Darcy and Lizzy are forced to spent time together (like being kidnapped by highwaymen, or stuck in someplace due to weather conditions).
What I don't particularly like in P&P what ifs is when Darcy is already married (engaged) to someone (probably because the only woman I can gladly share Mr.Darcy with is Elizabeth:)))) or if Lizzy is married (I don't strongly mind if she is engaged, as it will mean more struggle for Darcy:)). And we all like to see him struggle:) Shows that there are men (at least fictional) who are ready to take the pains of fighting for women they love, even if they cannot be sure to win:)
Also I don't like stories in which Lizzy has to cope with having been sexually abused. I don't mind angst, but I want Darcy and Lizzy to have "clean" relations, meaning, no rape, no marriages to others, no children out of wedlock etc.
I don't mind smut in P&P stories if it is skillfully written and is not out of place. Because if Darcy and Lizzy behave simply out of their characters, then it is not a P&P variation, but some creation of author's fantasy using their names.
Thank you for sharing wonderful excerpt and generous giveaway!

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Joana Starnes
10/5/2014 06:20:43 am

Thanks for this, it was great to read it. I see exactly what you mean, stories that bring the two together (more or less willingly) so that they just HAVE to air their differences and their misunderstandings are just so delicious!
I would seriously mind stories where Darcy falls in love with someone other than Elizabeth (that is totally forbidden, no excuses acceptable :D, he has to be either happy with Elizabeth or miserable without her!!!) but, having written one myself, I'm happy with stories where he goes on a rebound and proposes to someone else, then has a devil of a job to extricate himself from it. Similarly, stories with him agonising over Elizabeth's engagement to someone else are also great (boy, don't we love to torture him!) as long as we get the D&E HEA, which is an absolute must IMO.
Thanks for sharing and good luck!

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Samanta
10/5/2014 02:53:31 am

I am pretty much the same like all the other lovely readers here. I would love to see what happens next in our favorite characters' lives and what happens to secondary characters (like Kitty, Mary,....) but I would definitely not like to se main characters separated....that would just kill me. :) Though, I always wondered what happened to Fanny/Edmund, Emma/Mr. Knightley pairs....because I wasn't quite satisfied with how they were put together...there was just something lacking

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Joana Starnes
10/5/2014 06:24:30 am

Thanks for visiting and sharing your thoughts, Samanta!
I'm totally with you, out favourite characters should never end up other than together! Trials, tribulations, spanners in the works, everything goes, as long as they have their HEA to make up for all the hearache!
Good luck and thanks for popping by!

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Regina Silvia
10/5/2014 07:50:09 am

Like so many others, I enjoy all the variations, what if's, sequels, prequels. My pet peeve, however, is poor editing ranging from the wrong word used, comma splices, fragments, etc. That's the English teacher in me coming to the fore, I suppose!

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Joana Starnes
11/5/2014 07:57:39 am

Hi, Regina Silvia!
I know what you mean - or rather, I know NOW :D
With my first book, I was foolish enough to do all the editing myself. I thought, how hard can it be, and besides I've lovingly polished it for years, so it must be a piece of cake, right?
WRONG!
What I didn't factor in was that precisely because I've polished it for years, by the end I wasn't proofreading it, I was reciting it to myself :D and I really should have got a fresh pair of eyes, that wouldn't just slide over the typos, like mine did.
My second and third book owe a lot to my wonderful proofreaders, Dave and Pat, who caught all the from-form's; though-through's etc etc etc, and spared my blushes!

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Kelli
10/5/2014 09:07:29 am

Thank you for giving us a glimpse into Mrs. Bennet hers is a story that needs to be told, I'm my opinion in order to really understand the pressure to marry five girls with virtually no dowry in those times. But also I'd think it would shed more light on why Mr. Bennet hid in his study and didn't interfere with the "silliness" of his younger daughters. I look forward to reading the book.

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Joana Starnes
11/5/2014 08:10:11 am

What a lovely thought, Kelli! Maybe somebody will write the story of young Mr Bennet falling head-over-heels in love with a youthful and cheerful Miss Gardiner!

It must have been difficult for both of them to adjust to married life, when they came to see that reality was so much different from their infatuated imagination!

Thanks for visiting, and I hope you'll like the book!

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Lúthien84 link
10/5/2014 09:50:57 am

I think it is a given that Elizabeth and Darcy will end up together and marry. If JAFF writers chose to do otherwise, I may not incline to read their book unless they have very good reasons.

The excerpt is very tempting, Joana. I loved it.

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Joana Starnes
11/5/2014 08:15:31 am

Great to see you here! Oh, I think so too - and I'm not even sure that anything could be considered good enough reason for them not to end up together, they just have to :D

Glad you like the excerpt, and thanks for popping by!

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Vesper
10/5/2014 10:27:00 am

I like it if the characters roughly stay the same, obviously this would change depending on plot changes.Though I probably would forgive any changes as long as the book was well written.
I absolutely hate sex scenes (in any book). I accept that when characters in JAFF books are married they have sex, I just don't want a detailed description.

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Joana Starnes
11/5/2014 08:32:55 am

It's great to know where we are with familiar characters and it's understandable when they change with the circumstances - as long as Mr Darcy doesn't have the cheek to get his happy-eve-after with somebody other than Elizabeth :)
Can't remember, was it Hitchcock who said that imagination is a much more powerful tool than anything HE could put together? For my part, I guess he was right and I'm happy to go along with his tip to leave some things to the imagination (even though he was talking about VERY different subjects! :D)

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Ada Vittoria
12/5/2014 01:10:26 am

Your new book sound really interesting. I enjoy almost all Jane Austen's prequel, sequel, variations and what if because what I need for liking them is a well written story with a good plot and credible characters. What I do not like much (but if the story is really good I can tolerate it) is the staying too close to the Austen's tests when the different circustances will need more alterations.

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Joana Starnes
12/5/2014 04:36:20 am

Thanks, Ada Vittoria! I think there must have been a trend, several years ago, to link the variation with the original text (I know I did that A LOT with this story, to begin with!). But then as we kept finding the same paragraphs in different contexts, I think people moved away from it (both readers and authors) which is not such a bad thing after all!
Thanks for visiting, and best of luck in the giveaway!

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